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Attribution with Bob McKinnon

Apr 17, 2023

This bonus episode of Attribution, ‘Seeing Erin Hagerty’, was originally broadcast as a WLIW-FM special program and a part of Chasing the Dream: Poverty, Justice and Opportunity in America, a public media reporting initiative from The WNET Group.

Erin Hagerty died last year at the age of 62. By most counts she lived an extraordinary life -  simply by doing things many would consider ordinary. This is an examination not of what she did but how she was seen. By strangers, her family and most importantly how she saw herself.

“Seeing Erin Hagerty” is a WLIW-FM special program and a part of Chasing the Dream, a public media initiative The WNET Group, reporting on Poverty, Justice and Opportunity in America. 

Bob McKinnon, host of the podcast Attribution, talks with Erin’s mother, her four siblings and documentary filmmaker and activist Dan Habib.  Our hope for the next thirty minutes is that you simply see Erin for who she was. Perhaps it will change how you see others too.

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Bob McKinnon is a writer, designer, and teacher who asks us to reconsider the way we see success and the American Dream. 

His work has been featured in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Fast Company, NPR, and PBS.

His own journey out of poverty was captured in his TEDx talk: How Did I End Up Here. Through his writing and this podcast, he hopes to pay tribute and thanks to all those who have helped him and others move up in life.


Attribution is distributed in part by Chasing the Dream, a public media initiative from PBS flagship station, WNET in New York, reporting on poverty, justice, and economic opportunity in America. You can learn more at

This show was edited by No Troublemakers Media. Music by Jonnie “Most” Davis.

Our final credit goes to you, the listener, and to everyone who helped you get to where you are today. If this show has reminded you of someone in particular, make their day and let them know.